Tuesday, March 2, 2021

Moving On Time?

Football is indeed a funny old game.
In a year of pandemic misery our national sport has lifted the spirits of a tired and cynical nation.
Dominic Cummings is leaving number 10, the Brexit deal hasn’t been done, lockdown is on the horizon in the West of Scotland, etc. BUT all we want to do is talk about and relive our team finally doing the business.

For once lady luck came down on our side.

If we been the team to miss our last penalty and had the Serbians scored then Serbian Football would be £10million plus better off and it would be their team heading for Hampden and Wembley.

We’d still be in the doldrums and a Pandemic-accelerated financial basket case.

Scotland is now in their first finals since France 1998 and the nation is smiling and talking positively.

There is no doubt that Steve Clarke’s influence has been huge and we all owe him a real debt especially the bean counters at Hampden who must have been hiding behind their settees hiding their eyes through extra time and into the shoot-out.

Scotland is playing more like a club team with a binding spirit rather than a group of individuals who have just met, are there for the match fee and want to stay in their previous cliques.

The dark side is never far away though.
Overconfidence is always an issue when Scotland wins a few games.

Journalists are now filling pages talking about our 9 game unbeaten run and digging up statistics from the past about what 10 in a row would mean.

The fact that since we got humped 4-0 by Russia we’ve been playing second and third level teams rather than the big boys is somehow never mentioned as a counterbalance.

That we have qualified after 2 penalty shoot outs with a statistically unlikely 10 out of 10 consecutive strikes is put down to practicing penalty taking better than Israel and Serbia.

The two games in the next 4 days might extend our run or not – it doesn’t really matter.

We have the big prize for now and qualified against the odds.
Records will show the much higher ranked Norway and Serbia teams will be at home.

Ok we’ll be at home too but playing at Hampden and Wembalee.

Scottish Football on the park has rediscovered and is redefining teamwork.

Nothing else in our game or set up has changed
(That is a discussion for many another day though).

The success of our team is to a great extent serendipitous.

It’s not something anyone in a suit at Hampden has facilitated or can take credit for outside of hiring Mr Clarke who as Chic was telling us yesterday was the obvious candidate.

The right manager, Steve has gathered a promising group of players and with them negotiated a series of testing challenges.
The stark reality is sometimes the recent games have been painful to watch but progress in baby steps has been noticeable and we genuinely played well against the more fancied Serbia.

Teamwork has been our bedrock.

Teamwork that has been missing for a long time in our international set up and I would argue throughout our game behind the scenes.

Yes we lost a silly goal at the death but Serbia is some 15 places above us in the FIFA rankings and on the night we were by far the better side.
The same Serbian team that had just returned from Oslo having taken apart the much-vaunted Norwegian side.

Steve Clarke has been the catalyst that has facilitated the unforeseen move from Scotland being a team of self-interested individuals into one with the team spirit.

Yes Steve We Can Boogie.

The Scottish team has moved on and the future is brighter on the international stage.

I understand too why many previously ardent Scots fans had distanced themselves from the team as a personal protest against The SFA and their actions over the last few years.
I get that.
But listening to Ryan and Andy and Lyndon and Steve was enough to demonstrate that these guys are playing for the country and their folks back home and not the blazers or the system.
I buy into their passion and that alone is enough to bring even the stubbornest fans back aboard.

When Big Pink asked me to write a blog about the future of this site a couple of weeks back I said I would like to lurk for a few weeks and do some digging.

I have lurked and gone even further back too.

Top line is the SFM blog is not what it was but you all know that.

Here is Some Feedback

Bit by bit; imperceptibly over the months and years the site has entrenched into the home of the anger and the facts against what John Clark has come to call “The Big Lie”.
Its about how the authorities dealt with the financial collapse of Rangers and set the scene for a series of mayhemic events since.

It’s a big Scottish football story and a good insight into how the game managed itself

But other things have been happening since and football has broken out.

One of you said just yesterday
“This site has become a single issue site only becoming alive when something IBROX is current”.

That is partially true and is something to address because it diminishes what this site can achieve.

The number of posters has eroded since the RTC days and the number of clubs represented by posters has also diminished. The site was always a little Celtic minded but open and welcoming of all clubs at the same time.

Some of that goodwill leaked away in this summer’s SPFL pantomime season when self-interest and the quest for 10 became a subconscious position for some of your group.

The level of politeness and the moderation on the site has however remained a huge asset and is almost unique.

This openness has led recently to one serial troll reappearing after several previous monikers and he/she/they have been playing games with several well know posters. The resultant “dancing on a head of a pin” conversations are not so much “Monitoring Scottish Football” as “doing people’s heads in” and this episode has not helped.
That being said I wish salmon were as easy to hook as some on here.

I don’t think there are enough Headline Blogs like this one and in the past I’ve been told many new blogs are simply skimmed politely and ignored as the discussion reverts to the ongoing various fall outs of the consequences of the infamous secret 5 way agreement and all that has ensued following that particular monumental administrative cock up.

I well remember too and liked Stunney and his papers every morning and even though most of what is written in the back pages of the red tops is there to fill space it was still fun to read.

At the same time there has been so much going on that would have benefitted from the forensic discussion that SFM posters brought to the party.
The court reporting by John Clark, EasyJambo and others has been quite dogged, incredibly insightful and shown up the media on many an occasion.

As the subjects under discussion on SFM became narrower I think the site stopped attracting new blood and also accelerated the departure of valued posters.

The diminishing site then became easier for serial disrupters to play with and the ever-decreasing circles metaphor has probably become a reality.

Finally, the adverts on the site that appeared, as if by magic, a few years ago do not deliver enough revenue to justify the inconvenience to readers.
I can’t read the site on my phone without clicking into people trying to sell me stuff I have no interest in.

That’s just a summary of my views as someone who values what this site has brought over the years.

Is it Time for a Reboot at SFM?

I’d say yes and here are a few suggestions to get you thinking and to start a discussion ahead of Big P and his monitors taking some decisions.

Scottish Football needs an independent conscience.

Scottish Football will be the stronger for it.

SFM can be a huge part of that.

Not all fans will want to be part of it because many just want to support their teams and that is fair enough but without a fan voice and without real analysis of what is really going on all that will happen is we’ll get more of the same that took us into the football wilderness.

And without the right changes even Steve Clarke will run out of steam one day when the penalty gods favour some other side.

So here are 5 ideas for SFM to consider

1 A Regular Blog
This doesn’t have to be written for us like in the past– it can just be a weekly news pick that we highlight to set a discussion agenda.

2 The Creation of a John Clark Wall where we hold the facts about the run up to and the creation of his “big lie”.
Set it all our logically and leave it alone for a future date.
It won’t go away because the action created issues for everyone involved.
It should be constructed for all fans with no jelly and ice cream flavouring.

This action would makes SFM the experts and place to go to read what really happened, helps get that monkey off everyone’s back and can be revisited every February 14th or when something turns up.
It might throw more light too in why we are rejoicing about Scotland getting a £10M windfall from qualifying while nobody is talking about the £80M court case costs heading our way as a nation.
All out of a secret 5 way construct back in 2012 and good for nobody whoever you support.

In the meantime SFM should broaden the discussion on other areas like the dropping of the pyramid, the secrecy inherent at the SFA, SPFL and their JRG, Strict Liability, etc. etc. etc.

3 The return of likes for posts that are good or if you agree but with a difference.
I occasionally post on another site which is free to read for anyone but if you want to post or like another post you have to be registered and all likes show the name of the person who has posted.

4 A consideration for different threads at the same time.

5 No ads.
Sponsorship is fine and banner ads for sponsors too but no commercial links that wheech you off to pastures unknown.

Evolution rather than Revolution

I look forward to the debate and to working with Big Pink and his team.
As chair of the largest Scottish group of fans the SFSA (If you’re not a member please join) I know that the only certainty is that fans will never agree about everything or sometimes even anything.

The tribal and competitive nature of football sets us against each other and causes divisions and disagreements that can become entrenched.
Some would say that is part of the fun of it all.

That being said we do generally agree and care deeply about the following.
We want vision, leadership and most of all fairness and transparency.

All alien words in our game as is.

OK Scotland has qualified for a major championship but our game is still locked in a self-interest framed self-imposed wrestling hold and the fact is that escape will never happen without change.

SFM and SFSA can both be part of that.

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Andrew is the chairman of The Scottish Football Supporters Association Scotland’s Independent fans Association. An ex semi-pro footballer with two resultant artificial hips after too many slide tackles Andrew legitimately supports at least 4 of our senior clubs.

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  1. I've just noticed that if I give a thumbs up to a post that already has a goodly number of thumbs up, it doesn't add mine, but reduces the number already there to zero! (Ballyargus 22nd December 2020 at 17:39 is an example, even as I write!)

    I hope that the little glitch is resolved.


  2. Cluster One 22nd December 2020 at 23:01

    SPFL toast new sponsor as Glen’s Vodka backs Scottish football until 2023 SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster hailed the partnership…

    ========

    I see there is some mild criticism reported in the SMSM, but Doncaster, IMO, is confirming he is tone deaf with his comments.

    The game has been screaming out for Gov't. – i.e. taxpayers' – financial support due to covid, yet it continues to simply blank the opinions of its customer base / taxpayers.

    I'd guess the majority (?) of fans are uncomfortable with the national team – and our clubs – being strongly associated with booze, gambling, fast food, junk food, etc.

    heart

     


  3. John Clark 22nd December 2020 at 23:40

    I have the same problem when I try to use thumbs up/down. The numbers reset to zero. As Wottpi mentioned the number of thumbs down he got I reduced his to zero.:-)

     


  4. John Clark 21st December 2020 at 23:22

    I think the point is that the business has to record the difference between the purchase price of the assets, and their value, in the next set of accounts.

    So what they are basically saying (normally) is that we bought that bakery business (for example) for £100 pounds, buy the tangible assets, the ovens etc, are only worth £80 so we paid other £20 for the existing customer base, the reputation etc, and that is just referred to in it's totality as the "goodwill".

    As with  lot of accountancy stuff it all just looks like smoke and mirror to lay people like me. 

    In Rangers case the tangible assets were, in their opinion worth a whole lot more than what they paid, but they still have to record that figure and like I have been saying, that is the dead giveaway and admission that they underpaid.

    I suspect it will be part of BDO's case against the administrator.

    As ever this is very much my layman's understanding with apologies to those who actually understand these things.


  5. David Murray refused to sell for £33mill in 2010,Imran replied that he believed on a bad day the club was worth £50 million. july 2012and charles Green was telling everyone in Nov 2012 it was worth £80mill. Will be interesting when BDO have their day in court how the administrators came up with a figure of £5.5mill


  6. Homunculus 23rd December 2020 at 17:40

    ‘…I suspect it will be part of BDO’s case against the administrator.’

    “””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””
    With a nod to Cluster one whose post I saw just after writing this

    I suspect it will!

     The staggering difference in the various ‘valuations’ mentioned in the first (13 month year) annual  report is difficult to accept as anything other than a piece of nonsense, and I would imagine that any member of the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors would agree with me! 

    In looking at that report, incidentally, I think I saw the answer to the ‘novation’ question:

    At Note 23 to the accounts there is this:

    ” On 14 June 2012 Sevco 5088 Limited entered into agreements for no consideration to legally reassign its beneficial interest in funding placing letters held and to novate the trade and assets purchase agreement with RFC 2012 plc (in administration) to SevcoScotland (now The Rangers Football Club Ltd)”

    At that time, according to the report, Charles Green was the sole shareholder of Sevco 5088! ( I can’t find on the Companies House pages any reference to Green being a shareholder, but he’s mentioned as being a director-not quite the same thing) 

    If that was true, then he would have been entitled to do what he liked with Sevco 5088, and possibly enjoyed stuffing CW!

    [What a feckin mucky world it is out there among the glib and shameless lying sods of ‘businessmen’ , ‘legal advisers’ and general scummy low-lives determined to make their money by cynical exploitation of  other people’s trust.

    We had two phone calls today from evil bastards trying on a scam. I swore at the automated messengers, of course.

    And I thought: well, really, is there any difference between them and the ‘legitimate’ folk who make up company accounts , or audit company accounts, or who ‘regulate’ the financial world?

    Don’t they all in their various ways con us? They will sail as close to the wind legally as they can  but morally the intent is to screw us!

    Or is that too bad a thought at Christmas-time?heart

     

     

     

     


  7. John Clark 24th December 2020 at 00:03

    EDIT

    "..

    In looking at that report, incidentally, I think I saw the answer to the ‘novation’ question:

    At Note 23 to the accounts there is this:

    ” On 14 June 2012 Sevco 5088 Limited entered into agreements for no consideration to legally reassign its beneficial interest in funding placing letters held and to novate the trade and assets purchase agreement with RFC 2012 plc (in administration) to SevcoScotland (now The Rangers Football Club Ltd)”  "

    ——————————————————–

    Sevco5088 is still alive and kicking according to companies house despite repeated attempts to shut it down (strike it from the register) by interested parties. No deed of novation is recorded at companies house, an observation made many times by SFM members, that may yet have it`s part to play.

     

    A Happy Christmas and peaceful new year to monitors and contributors alike…even the reasonable ones.


  8. Cluster One @ 21:52

    When you break the 5.5m  figure down I remember that the stadium itself only accounted for 1.5m . It could be argued that it was an integral part of allowing  business to continue but many clubs in the past have lost their stadiums (but retained their history) and carried on trading. On a bad day as a brown field site it was worth 20m , much of the demolition costs could have been covered by selling memento's such as seats , pitch plots and even the loving cup and other blue room collectibles and even turned a profit. These were not necessary to carry on trading as a football club but they were crucial if they wanted to carry on trading as the same football club* . Of course it's the same club* they wail , it's the same stadium , we bought the history and we have the trophies to prove it. They then had an IPO stating that very thing . They screwed the tax payer, they screwed the creditors , screwed the creditors again then duped the new investors . Even though the EBT scheme they used  was ruled unlawful in the Supreme Court I don't believe 1 penny of those due taxes has ever been recovered . It isn't just Santa who says Ho Ho Ho 

    Merry Christmas 


  9. gunnerb 24th December 2020 at 10:56

    "..an observation made many times by SFM members, that may yet have it`s part to play."

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    Yes, gunnerb: I should have said that I could not remember when I first saw a reference to the 'novation', but it was long before I thought of looking up Companies House [it might even have been before I knew of such a thing as Companies House, so fundamentally unknowing was I of the ways of the business world!]

    In the great scheme of things ,one wonders what the huge big international conglomerates might get up to when a piddling little sh.te of a one-man company can keep its origins so darkly obscured.

    Perhaps BDO will present us with a stoater of a Christmas present in a year or two's time in the shape of a few good jail sentences for guilty people, if any such are are found!broken heart

     

     

     


  10. Hi Folks,

    We'd like to invite you all to sign up at the new forum

    forum.sfm.scot

    Signup process takes a minute or so. You register, then get a mail within a few seconds, and reply to the mail.

     

    We will be sending everyone an email to all of our contributors past and present in the next few days to invite them to register and be a part of it all.

    In the meantime, it would be good to start up some stuff over there, but we will keep both platforms open for a time.

    Also, there are no barriers to entry for anyone, although normal rules of decency apply 🙂

    There are so many bells and whistles attached to the new Forum, and I guess we will be doing a little learning as we go along. 

    Also, a Merry Christmas to you all.

    J


  11. John Clark 24th December 2020 at 00:03

    "At that time, according to the report, Charles Green was the sole shareholder of Sevco 5088! ( I can’t find on the Companies House pages any reference to Green being a shareholder, but he’s mentioned as being a director-not quite the same thing) "

    Would he not need to be a shareholder to protect his rights see below why I think he had  shares

     

    "

    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/08011390/filing-history?page=3

     

    14 Jun 2012

    Resolutions

    • Resolution of removal of pre-emption rights
    • Resolution of removal of pre-emption rights

     

     

    Shareholders and directors have two completely different roles in a company. The shareholders (also called members) own the company by owning its shares and the directors manage it. Unless the articles say so (and most do not) a director does not need to be a shareholder and a shareholder has no right to be a director.

     

    Pre-emption rights provide existing shareholders (members) of a company first refusal on the issue, transfer, or transmission of shares in that company. Rights of pre-emption are deemed necessary to protect members against involuntary dilution of their existing shareholdings, i.e. a reduction in the percentage of their current stake in the company.

     

    If he was the sole owner what would he be protecting in the future?


  12. bigboab1916 24th December 2020 at 22:27

    "… see below why I think he had  shares.."

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    It's not that I, in my humble opinion and in my understanding of the facts and making no categorical assertion, do not believe that CG worked a clever flanker!

     I do not say that he did. I simply say that I personally believe that he did.

    The problem is that trying to make sense of how the Companies House records are to be read is quite difficult.

    They merely record what they have been told, and self-confessedly admit that they do not guarantee the truth of what they have been told!

    But the drunken phone call to CW ( if it was not genuine then in my opinion it ought to have been, as being illustrative of the 'thieves falling out' dictum!)broken heart


  13. Timtim 24th December 2020 at 11:41

    '..It isn't just Santa who says Ho Ho Ho '

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     The death rattle of those in office in Scottish Football governance in 2012 will not be a 'ho ho ho' but  a very weak, frightened 'oh no no!" as they see their useless and stupid lies for what they are![ cut to 'Citizen Kane' and old Orson/Kane on his deathbed:]

    I'm not actually a film buff: but reflecting on that other wonderful film "The Apartment", with Jack Lemmon , Shirley MacLaine and Fred MacMurray, with Fred playing a right bast.rd of an adulterous heel at home with the wife and family on Christmas Eve (in the American 'ideal family Christmas'), I think of other low lives in office who betray the trust reposed in them, and who then go home to be the 'good loving husband and dad' etc, knowing in their black hearts that they are liars and deceivers.

    And knowing that others so consider them to be-especially those who , as having themselves been  party to the lies, know them to be liars!

     

     

     


  14. One for BP I think.  I am trying to register on the new forum and having a problem with the registration form.  There is no indication on the form what you should enter into the fields.  Most of them are guessable except for the last field.  I can't proceed to register until I complete that last field and I'm afraid it's got me stumped!

    Anyone else having this problem or am I doing something wrong / using the wrong browser?

    A very happy to Christmas to all on sfm.


  15. One for BP I think.  I am trying to register on the new forum and having a problem with the registration form.  There is no indication on the form what you should enter into the fields.  Most of them are guessable except for the last field.  I can’t proceed to register until I complete that last field and I’m afraid it’s got me stumped!

    Anyone else having this problem or am I doing something wrong / using the wrong browser? 

    ====================================================

    My problem is the email verification has not turned up so even though I managed to register I can’t verify it.


  16. Let me offer wholehearted Christmas good wishes to all in Scottish Football-yeah, I suppose, even to the cheats therein ( in whose case maybe my good wishes might  move them to wish to deserve them rather than persist in their deception!)broken heart

     


  17. shug 25th December 2020 at 14:08

     

    "My problem is the email verification has not turned up so even though I managed to register I can’t verify it."

    What did you enter in the final field of the form?  That's the part that's preventing me from progressing.


  18. In case anyone is having the same problem I was having with the registration form, the last field is "location". I discovered this when I put in some gobbledegook and received an error message telling me to enter a "…valid location." 


  19. Re ‘forum.sfm.scot’:

    I’ve filled in the fields successfully, to the extent that my user-name shows up, but I’m awaiting the should-be instantaneous, automated, confirmation email to activate my account. I’ve submitted a request to have it resent, but I’m still waiting. It’s about an hour now (and no, it’s not in my spam folder)…

    Fortunately, Jimmy Cliff’s ‘Sitting In Limbo’ is playing on repeat in my head…

     

     


  20. Jingso Jimsie
    Two mails sent this morning. One at 10:52 and another at 10:54
    I’ve manually confirmed you and Shug though, but mails were definitely sent, and no bounce back

    J


  21. There's nothing like a wee bit of history!

    I was fiddling about looking back on the SFM blog, and came across this:

    "bawsbustedanatha says:

    Thursday, October 18, 2012 at 11:39

    "It’s started folks….

    SANDY JARDINE reckons Rangers are well on their way to being in their best shape for 30 years off the pitch.

    On it, he’s convinced Ally McCoist will lead the club back to the top.

    But the Ibrox legend won’t forget the turmoil they’ve had to suffer – until shamed ex-owner Craig Whyte is behind bars.

    It’s been eight months since Gers were plunged into administration and 18 weeks since the liquidation process was started.

    Jardine is just grateful they’re still alive but every time Whyte’s name is mentioned he can’t help but look back in anger.

    In an exclusive interview, he told Record Sport: “I now feel even more bitterness towards Whyte than I did at the time. What he did to this club was an absolute disgrace and I still can’t comprehend it.

    “It doesn’t surprise me he rarely shows his face in Scotland. He couldn’t try to defend what he did. He decapitated Rangers.

    “But I know the police and fraud squad are continuing to look at things and hopefully they will put him in jail.”

    Jardine has seen it all at Ibrox during a four-decade association with the club but nothing could have prepared him for the year they’ve just had to endure.

    And it pains him trying to explain Rangers’ plight to icons of the past, who will soon be celebrated at ‘Legends Lunches’.

    He said: “I’ve been through hard times but there was never a situation when I thought the club could die, and we could have done this year. When I meet the older ex-players, they can’t believe what has happened.

    “I met Bobby Brown last week and when he played here, Rangers were known as the biggest club in Britain and one of the biggest in Europe.”

    Jardine feels his club have been treated badly by the SFA and SPL, whose indecision left Gers waiting to find out which league they’d be playing in this season.

    They are now plying their trade in our game’s bottom tier but former Scotland full-back Jardine is adamant Rangers’ new chief executive Charles Green is the right man to steer the club back to prosperity.

    He said: “We’re now in a far better financial position than we’ve been in a long time. It looks as though the share issue will go really well and if it’s successful, we’ll be in our healthiest position for 30 years.

    “It’s still early days but Charles has delivered what he said he would.

    “The club has been treated abysmally by the governing bodies. We’ve been let down by them and I include the SFA, SPL and the tax authorities in that.

    “We know we deserved punishment and if the SFA and SPL felt we merited punishments, they could have done it within a few weeks.

    But it was left to the last minute, just 24 hours before our first game at Brechin we still didn’t know if we had a licence and that’s disgraceful.”

    Jardine is convinced Rangers will return to the top of Scottish football and is adamant boss McCoist is the man to take them there."

    I drank in the same pub as Sandy.

    I'm glad that he appreciated that the new club did not exist as a recognised professional football club in Scottish Football  before the nonsense of 'conditional' membership that allowed 'Club 12' to play Brechin!

    Honest to God, what were they all about? pitiful in their frantic efforts to deny the death, a death as absolute as was suffered by the corpses on the cold marble of the the morgue in the vicinity of the Court in which Whyte was tried.

     


  22. Sandy not the brighest, the SFA should have been jailed

    Chapter 2: Licence Applicant and Licence  Article 12  –  Definition of licence applicant

    1A licence applicant may only be a football club, i.e. a legal entity fully responsible for  a  football  team  participating  in  national  and  international  competitions  which  either: 

    a)   is  a  registered  member  of  a  UEFA  member  association  and/or  its  affiliated  league (hereinafter: registered member); or b)  has a contractual relationship with a registered member (hereinafter: football company). 

    2The  membership  and  the  contractual  relationship  (if  any)  must  have  lasted  –  at  the  start  of  the  licence  season  –  for  at  least  three  consecutive  years. 

    Any  alteration  to  the  club’s  legal  form  or  company  structure  (including,  for  example,  changing  its  headquarters,  name  or  club  colours,  or  transferring  stakeholdings  between different clubs) during this period in order to facilitate its qualification on sporting merit and/or its receipt of a licence to the detriment of the integrity of a competition   is   deemed   as   an   interruption   of   membership   or   contractual   relationship (if any) within the meaning of this provision. 

     

    Article 13  –  General responsibilities of the licence applicant

    1The licence applicant must provide the licensor with:

     a)  all necessary information and/or relevant documents to fully demonstrate that the licensing obligations are fulfilled; and  b)  any other document relevant for decision-making by the licensor. 

    2This  includes  information  on  the  reporting  entity/entities  in  respect  of  which  sporting,   infrastructure,   personnel   and   administrative,   legal   and   financial   information is required to be provided. 

    3 Any  event  occurring  after  the  submission  of  the  licensing  documentation  to  the  licensor   representing   a   significant   change   to   the   information   previously   submitted must be promptly notified to the licensor.  

    Article 14  –  Licence 1Clubs which qualify for the UEFA club competitions on sporting merit or through the  UEFA  fair  play  rankings  must  obtain  a  licence  issued  by  their  licensor  according to the national licensing regulations, except where Article 15 applies. 2A  licence  expires  without  prior  notice  at  the  end  of  the  season  for  which  it  was  issued.

     

    13 3 A licence cannot be transferred. 

    4A licence may be withdrawn by the licensor’s decision-making bodies if:

    a)  for  any  reason  a  licensee  becomes  insolvent  and  enters  liquidation,  as  determined  by  the  applicable  national  law  (where  a  licensee  becomes  insolvent  but  enters  administration  during  the  season,  for  so  long  as  the  purpose  of  the  administration  is  to  rescue  the  club  and  its  business,  the  licence should not be withdrawn);

     b)  any of the conditions for the issuing of a licence are no longer satisfied; or c)   the  licensee  violates  any  of  its  obligations  under  the  national  club  licensing  regulations. 

    5As  soon  as  a  licence  withdrawal  is  envisaged,  the  UEFA  member  association  must inform the UEFA administration accordingly. 

     

     

     


  23. The new forum won't allow me to reply to posts. It claims, "Your account is currently awaiting confirmation. Confirmation was sent to …..(my email). I have not received an email or a requested duplicate, please advise. 

    As an aside I prefer the old format.


  24. Ballyargus
    There are some domains which appear to be losing our emails. I have enabled your new account on the forum and you are free to post. I will also send you an email to see if you receive it.
    Anyone who is having this problem (and I guess there are half a dozen or so), please mail me at bp@sfm.scot

    We will sort it


  25. I have not registered for the new site, but feel it is cumbersome and unwieldy.

    It also looks to me much less straightforward than this – so please consider a return BP.

     


  26. The new forum is far too busy. Has no appeal to me at all. Hardly any of the heavy hitters have appeared. Easy and Ally Jambo. Homunculus etc. I am swithering about donating anymore. Feel a bit sad but the coronavirus situation is making me feel that way anyway. Good luck for the future

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